A dharma gem response copied from Mushim Ikeda-Nash

I certainly hear you. My test for someone who felt they had had “profound awakening experiences” would be to have them take care of a teething baby for 2 months, followed by being in charge of a rambunctious group of 2 – 4 …year olds who were busy showing age appropriate behavior such as trying to strangle one another, spitting, hitting, potty training, and among whom there was a hard to beat head lice problem. If after all this they still felt profoundly awakened, my hat is off to them.